so.. what to play?

[LostCause]

anyone know any decent mmos worth playing or waste a bit of time on? i tried the newish l2 server goddess of destruction, but its kinda laggy n sluggish! even contemplating the aion eu f2play n i played a bit of rift to level 20! n apart from that a bit of mw3 n tribes, was thinking of getting bf3 to pass the time! got bored of swtor dno just lost the appeal after a while!

n is any1 here gonna play gw2, looks decent n the levelling gonna take a while coz they said after lvl 30 they expect it to be 90 mins a level n the caps level 80!

so if any1 has any suggestion please let me know

[Ambush]

Lets play soma mate.

[Kenpachi]

.... Swtor?

[Ambush]

got bored of swtor dno just lost the appeal after a while!


he she it them when said he but ok, maybe?

[Kenpachi]

he she it them when said he but ok, maybe?

bah, missed that line. Early morning post!
in that case, go kill some time on QWOP!
http://www.foddy.net/Athletics.html
Hardest gamer ever!

[SeldenSeen]

I'm gonna play gw2 for sure.. hope KoS jumps on that game aswell.. but ye won't come out for at least a couple of months.

[ddogg]

swtor is just warming up I would say - bit soon to be looking for a new game. GW isn't an mmo so I am unlikely to play that.

[Kenpachi]

swtor is just warming up I would say - bit soon to be looking for a new game.
For a game that is still warming up, it seems pretty hot right now. No doubt more content is on the way, really looking like they may have did it and made a long term p2p mmorpg for the first time in years!
The real question will be if the quitters come bouncing back... this is the pattern that keeps mmorpgs breathing for a long time.
Kinda like on WoW... ppl quit WoW every day, but the game somehow pulls people back often.

[Swifteh]

Im off to Hello Kitty Online. No joke tbh!

Though the more i read into tera what with the whole political system stuff and PK PK PK i think i might be picking it up anyway just to play by myself if i gotta hah but awaiting testing first etc :)

I would love to see a full PK server tho ! but apparently the political "leaders" of zones can make it open PK

Mix tht in with some apparently "high skill cap classes to master" it raises my eyebrow more i guess :P

Also been screwing around on L2 for some reason lol and you can still catch me on Swtor even if work is literally killing me atm !

I sort of get the feeling my mmo times are slowly drawing to an end tho ive said tht alot before to lol much <3!

[LostCause]

ill b back on swtor when theres something interesting!! just doesnt have the appeal to level up other characters when they improve crafting n some new pve stuff ill b there! dont have time for long drawn out raids n pvp is not my thing unless its for the lols!
at the moment ive returned to my staple wow bit of LFR bit of leveling old alts dunno why but wow is old but it just got a certain factor to it that swtor just doesnt have at the moment!

cant knock swtor itsa good game but once u say got ya t2 gear okay u can go get ya t3then what just do it so u can get your os set n then well run around n look pro i spose?!

TERA looks good may give it a go once i get bored of messing bout on wow i spose!

[Kenpachi]

ill b back on swtor when theres something interesting!! just doesnt have the appeal to level up other characters when they improve crafting n some new pve stuff ill b there! dont have time for long drawn out raids n pvp is not my thing unless its for the lols!
at the moment ive returned to my staple wow bit of LFR bit of leveling old alts dunno why but wow is old but it just got a certain factor to it that swtor just doesnt have at the moment!

cant knock swtor itsa good game but once u say got ya t2 gear okay u can go get ya t3then what just do it so u can get your os set n then well run around n look pro i spose?!

TERA looks good may give it a go once i get bored of messing bout on wow i spose!

What do you mean "long drawn out raids"... How long do the swtor raids take?

I heard WoW is going downhill, with all of the primary raid content being achievable in a single evening of raiding? For me the the peak was certainly Ulduar and ICC (with hard modes offering a bit of a challenge).

[TheTitan]

What do you mean "long drawn out raids"... How long do the swtor raids take?.


There are titles if u complete them in nightmare mode under 2 hours. Several PVE guilds have done 5/5 nightmare under 90 min so dunno whats he on about

[Chojja]

That is the exact same problem with wow tho man. The Pve gear progression in SWTOR is identical to the one in wow.

[Gruper]

Play tera with us.

[SPIRIT]

ill b back on swtor when theres something interesting!! just doesnt have the appeal to level up other characters when they improve crafting n some new pve stuff ill b there! dont have time for long drawn out raids n pvp is not my thing unless its for the lols!
at the moment ive returned to my staple wow bit of LFR bit of leveling old alts dunno why but wow is old but it just got a certain factor to it that swtor just doesnt have at the moment!

cant knock swtor itsa good game but once u say got ya t2 gear okay u can go get ya t3then what just do it so u can get your os set n then well run around n look pro i spose?!

TERA looks good may give it a go once i get bored of messing bout on wow i spose!

SWTOR: What doesn't appeal to you is, levelling up other characters, don't have time for long drawn out raids n pvp is not your thing?

WoW: What appeals to you to go back is LFR (i'm guessing that means looking for raid?) and also levelling old alts.

SWTOR is like WoW in allot of the end game progression, you do some pvp, do dailies to get rakata implants and earpiece, raid twice a week for loot, if u get bored you go level an alt until more content arrives.

How many of the hard mode flashpoints have you done and have you killed every boss in normal, hard and nightmare modes?

Anyway gl in your gaming future :)

[TheTitan]

Play tera with us.

are u guys going to play more than a month there ?
and this crap with us and eu clients separated again blah.

[Ahura]

Ugh... Lost, go buy Magic The Gathering, install it on your computer, and join the online sensation before we all murder you! :D

Join me lost you know you want to. i play mono-blue deck, the game is amazing, i am very new to it myself so learning it a bit every day.

This shows you the basics of the game: http://mtg.wikia.com/wiki/Magic:_The_Gathering_Wiki

This is where you buy it: http://store.steampowered.com/app/49470/

Yah yah i know! this is a whole new geek level but seriously the game is good.

[Necromael]

duels of the planeswalkers is reeeeally good, but try playing magic irl, its even better, if you have someone to play with.

[LostCause]

i dno what it is about wow its not great best times were kara in greens, ahura knows how epic that was n za in greens seriously the best times n cho wid me tanking on nightbane n on the phone n good old gruul with a broken shield! thing is things like that made me wanna play n still fun levelling alts n that in wow.

the content in swtor, levelling just wasnt fun the raid was boring okay i just did all normal ev and 1 boss in palace place did all the hm fps but in wow u had rep n so on so u had a reason to do them! this u do it once get your tier ok why do it again? the game is good no doubts n im sure ill b back to play when there is more to do! n yeah u go on about nightmare modes but okay once u have your t2 n some t3 n 8 like minded ppl its not hard honestly?
i guess evry1 has different opinions but i guess wow was a benchmark swtor isnt quite there but nor was wow in vanilla!!
n like atm i have 3 alts in wow just rotate playing them n spam dungeons to lvl i guess thats what appeals to me i can log in n in 5mins ill b in a grp to do something! i guess u could say the same with swtor but then u end up wid tards n ull spend hours doing esseles :p!!

yeah ahura ill check it out sounds like a laugh! i been skilling in eve still just gonna keep that running until the day a few of us start playing!

Aint been on vent guess things just rnt the same!!

neways ill pop on laterrss.

[xtopolis]

are u guys going to play more than a month there ?
and this crap with us and eu clients separated again blah.

Depends if it's worth it endgame. I'm willing to give most games a shot, but I won't stick around and suffer for no reason if the game isn't up to par.

Tera is great, but it's nothing major. Yes the combat is refreshing. and fighting BAMs (elites*) is not like anything you've fought before, especially when you don't have tab targeting lock on.

Think of boss fights in any game. Now image those are just elite mobs, and that the mobs are a bit harder, and take as long to kill. I'll try to fraps it maybe.

[TheTitan]

Depends if it's worth it endgame. I'm willing to give most games a shot, but I won't stick around and suffer for no reason if the game isn't up to par.

Tera is great, but it's nothing major. Yes the combat is refreshing. and fighting BAMs (elites*) is not like anything you've fought before, especially when you don't have tab targeting lock on.

Think of boss fights in any game. Now image those are just elite mobs, and that the mobs are a bit harder, and take as long to kill. I'll try to fraps it maybe.

The thing is we knew SWTOR is not ready and that EA are rushing it 3 months ahead of what was expected.

Yes they made some major mistakes: like the quest exp (they could have easily reduced it 5 times or more to allow ppl to do other stuff while lvling like fps, wzs, world bosses, heroics and so on it would have taken 30 days to lvl instead of 6 but would have been way more fun for all imo - they have the content there pre lvl 50 but ppl just skipped it cause its easier to plvl in 6 days)

Yes they fked up with Ilum and seem to be lacking a bit on ideas how to fix it.

But end of the day they are patching every week or even 2 times a week. You'll never get that in any korean port - never, best u can hope for is 4 times a year with some bug fix patches more often at the start.

Plus there is all that crap with the diff eu/us clients and the lawsuits with NC Soft ( who knows what that would mean for the game)

SWTOR is defo not a finished game but they are fixing stuff, korean mmos take months to do similar patches.

So yeah i do understand why ppl are currently leaving swtor and why those that stay are giving them time till the march content patch to get on track but i rly doubt ppl will play TERA for a longer time and even tho i love the first few weeks when we pwn a new mmo i kind of preffer to stick a bit longer.

[Kenpachi]

Plus there is all that crap with the diff eu/us clients and the lawsuits with NC Soft ( who knows what that would mean for the game)

That seems like the interest breaker for me. I may still check out terra during OB though.

warning: Incoming Rant!

Having started the leveling process very late on SWTOR and being a very good student at college w/ a huge focus on my career development, I have a little different perspective than most (combined with a MUCH lower time budget)

Things I am hating about SWTOR atm, leveling is just like most "cap" games where leveling is still just a chore in the rush to endgame (despite having an immersive quest system). In fact, the quest system makes the leveling process even more of a chore after a while, because you actually have to pause and make choices (for alignment/affection) when you just wanna get to level cap asap to play endgame content with your friends.

The group/social play of SWTOR is pretty garbage at low lvl, may as well just be a solo game (besides WarZones) because most of the quest areas are instanced. I am yet to do a single Flashpoint (despite having quests for them), because the game is not set up to make finding groups very quick or easy .. It simply is not worth spending hours, trying to find a group in general chat.

The second issue can easily be addressed, by making it easier to find groups (similar que system to the WZ). The immersive quest system, not so easy. Maybe an option for a "pre-determined path", that chooses the choices for you based on preferences so you can skip through them faster.

That being said, the Space Combat is a GREAT touch. And the 10-49 Warzones are an AWESOME idea, with the "bolstering" making it possible to play pvp with your higher level friends.

I just don't think they have a consistent setup. On one side the bolstering with Warzones says they want to encourage group play with lots of different levels, then the PvE content sends the complete opposite message.

Overall I like the game, until everyone quits and I have nobody to play with when I finally reach level 50. My issues are mostly due to people leaving the game, making my mad rush to 50 even more frantic, despite not having much time. I want to play SOME endgame before it's too late. Can't blame SWTOR for that.

I really wish stamina was existent anymore. Why did we stick in those hardcore grinder games back i the day? stamina of course. Sticking in there despite the challenges, not looking for the first excuse to quit.

[Kenpachi]

Yes they made some major mistakes: like the quest exp (they could have easily reduced it 5 times or more...


what? There is no way I agree with this.
I do mainly my class quests, and constantly find myself 2-3 levels behind my current quest due to lack of experience gain from main quest line. I hate questing or course, so prefer to do minimal optional "side quests". There is no way that quests give 5x too much exp, and the reason the other options are not being done, is because they are not viable leveling options.

If anything, buff the WZ Exp a little to make that a viable option. Or add a que system for FP (as mentioned previously), so people actually have those leveling options.

[Neji]

Rah Lost quit swtor after 2 weeks???????????????

Man Rocklee is right i should of listen to him and put a bet at the betting shop as i'd be a millionaire as him and his bro named people who will quit within a month and how things would turn out.

What i don't understand is people who seem to be Rage Quiting are the people who aint even got 60+ valor and even completed one Raid on Normal mode!!!

The game has just begun why do people expect a game to just come out and have everything they want.... If this was the case why even play the game in the first place as im sure if these people read into the game before playing it they would know what to expect...

I'm not a WoW player because that game sucks hard but from what i've heard from people swtor and wow and very alike so i don't see point in going back to World Of Shitters and not see whats up and coming on a game thats less then two months old.

If im honest I'd rather play a single player game then follow any kos member to another game as it seems like people rush to cap and Quit.


Like wheres DEMORDEY That dick owes me 2mil telling me shit about i will quit game before 50 and now I'm 50 and by far passed him in gear/valor quest etc his no where to be seen the dumb Quiter. Gimme my fookin money u cunt!!

Anyways stop the stupid rage quiting and play the bloody game its not hard its pretty simple kinda ticks me off thinking yes I be playing with whole of KoS then you get a bunch of cry babies making excuses to quit because they can't afford £8 a month.

Anyways I'm out aint got time for quiters...

Take note once a quiter Always a quiter

Bless.....

[Kenpachi]

... i don't see point in going back to World Of Warcraft and not see whats up and coming on a game thats less then two months old

I am all for SWTOR. But when I eventually get to level 50 and find there is nobody to play endgame with (given the current quittage rate), then I wont be happy. That means people sticking around for another month *shock*, considering I was being told that SWTOR was gonna be around for years... I don't think that is an unreasonable request.

My alternate option would be to certainly go back to WoW. Mainly because I know I have 4 lvl 85's and 2 lvl 80+, a bunch of raid/pvp experience and therefore pretty much ready for endgame w/ some gear adjustments. That and the WoW squad has been active for several years now.

If SWTOR turns out to be another fail, then I will be really pissed off and gutted tbh. I already feel that I ditched the US WoW guys to a certain extent, and re-earning my raid spot would take a lot of effort.

[Neji]

I am all for SWTOR. But when I eventually get to level 50 and find there is nobody to play endgame with (given the current quittage rate), then I wont be happy. That means people sticking around for another month *shock*, considering I was being told that SWTOR was gonna be around for years... I don't think that is an unreasonable request.

My alternate option would be to certainly go back to WoW. Mainly because I know I have 4 lvl 85's and 2 lvl 80+, a bunch of raid/pvp experience and therefore pretty much ready for endgame w/ some gear adjustments. That and the WoW squad has been active for several years now.

If SWTOR turns out to be another fail, then I will be really pissed off and gutted tbh. I already feel that I ditched the US WoW guys to a certain extent, and re-earning my raid spot would take a lot of effort.

Don't worry Ken we already got rid of the bad bunch of quiters so theres still a future for swtor. And also there is a massive patch up and coming in March with New race and war zones so its looking good

[Kenpachi]

Hmm, new race already? interesting, and maybe just in time for when I make an alt.
New fresh WZ will definitely be nice too.
Do you have any further info about this incoming content patch?

Also waiting on Pod-Racing, sure they are gonna add that at some point!, How crazy would that be?

[Neji]

Yeah heres the link to it

http://www.swtor.com/blog/community-qa-feb-10th-2012

[Ahura]

yeah ahura ill check it out sounds like a laugh! i been skilling in eve still just gonna keep that running until the day a few of us start playing!

I been skilling my EVE account too. keep trying to play it for real again but just not happening. i will keep the account active tho.

If you do end up buying that game let me know lost, i will give you my steam; i think dust and rollie also bought the game.

[Gruper]

Tera, right now as I see it, is a game with the potential to have great depth as a guild grows. I would love to go riding by and see a Town or Castle owned by KoS for all the world to see. I would love to defend an area with a crew of 15 to 30 KoS members again. I personally need a game to be challenging for me not to lose my interest. I would love everyone to work on a character and strive to make that character as great as possible and not reroll on several toons with ok gear and settle for ok gear.

Crafting will take a lot of time. Enhancing will take time. Money means a lot in this game period. Kill mobs so you can get money to buy crafting ingrediants, thats what i had to do. I went to 50 crafting in all specs, (weaponsmith, armor, alch, etc.. cost me 55k for each one). At level 22 the items i crafted are good to that levelish. I also got a better weapon and armor off of 22/23 level quest rewards afterwards. You also can get crafting mats off of item breakdowns. I personally love all the work involved so far.

I love the Guild quest aspects of it to a point. The quild quests are for you directly so you basically do your part for the guild makes me feel like i am doing my part.

I am not playing this game for anyone one person just to let y'all know. I am playing for the guild KoS. If you fall into a group that I am in, then I will party with you till you chose to do something else. I will move with a group of guys everyday as long as they want to get better gear for you and to teach KoS players what to do when they get there. I always want to raid or get quests done to make myself better to represent the guild. Not roll 3 different toons and play my main when everyone is on. I will pug to get myself better for KoS. I will not xp for over a week to get one level tho, lol.

So if you can get your hands on the game check it out. IGN was doing something for beta invites, not sure if they still are. I really like the game because it calls me to think instead of button mashing, placing your character is key in my class as a Bezerker. Love the game so far.:laugh:

[Ahura]

Welcome to Tera; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q4LXH9POIg&feature=related.

[Ambush]

Dont know why your trying to put a negative on the game in that way. Every game has hacks and bots etc, if theres anyone who knows this shit its us.

I dont think ive played a game where the basic hacks like speed hack etc dont work.

Look at Swtor the same speed and axis hack that was on Rfonline in 2006 works on it.

ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZ

[SeldenSeen]

Cheating will always be part of any game.. but I hope at least they try to combat it and actually punish players for breaking the rules (as in permabans etc). And fixing the exploits in their gamecode as much as possible.

[Kenpachi]

Cheating will always be part of any game..
amen..

I mean, if you are expecting any game to be able to 100% stop "cheating"/hacking/botting, without severely damaging the gameplay for legit players, then you are taking unreasonable to a whole new level.

I mean if you don't wanna have to compete with "cheaters", then single player games are that way >>>>>>

[Ahura]

Quote taken from Here (http://tera.wikia.com/wiki/TERA_Wiki)

TERA, also known as The Exiled Realm of Arborea is a fantasy massively multiplayer online role-playing game, developed by blueholestudio and published by En Masse Entertainment in the US and Frogster Interactive in the EU. TERA was released in Korea on the 25th of January 2011. The game is scheduled to be released in the US on the 1st of May 2012 and in the EU on the 3rd of May 2012.

Publishers have no right to alter/change the game. they pay X amount for the rights to publish a game at X region. Developers will provide them with the client/patchs and all the needed changes. These changes can be requested by publishers (IE: say you hate point to click and want wasd movement etc) ultimately the developers have to go ahead and carry out these changes which they call localization changes. we all played mmo for ages so this is should be common knowledge so far.

Tera was lunched over a year ago; they still haven't fixed the bot/speed hack issue since the lunch of the game. while swtor fixed the speed hack roughly 2 weeks after i reported it at the same time they fixed X-Y-Z axis cheat. Yes new bug/cheat will always be found and abused in every game; but the attitude of developers toward their game and how fast they want to fix new problems is significant. For the record i am not hyping up swtor, i am just using them as example since someone brought that up.

I am not trying to be negative. i am just calling things as how i see them. If you are going to go in Tera with the hopes and thoughts that Devs will fix it, then wake up; shit didn't get fixed for a year. If bots/cheats/hacks/etc don't bother you one bit and you like the game then what i showed should not have any sway on your decision.

What Tera has is IP block to stop the known X cheaters from getting on your server and that is the last line of defense. This wont work since everyone can by-pass this IP block.

[Ambush]

Alright guys lets all quit, its over. See you guys.

[Swifteh]

Publishers have no right to alter/change the game.

Well according to enmasse your wrong they can and will change the game to suit w/e needs the player base have, according to them they have their own Dev team so i dunno *shrug* with the rights to change things.

Ill get you the official statement about it if you want to pick at it :p could be bs might not be all i can say is i definatly get tht you dont like the game i would ask for reasons as i really am interested in peoples views that have played it in Korea but bots/hackers is abit much lol

[Ambush]

I think people look into things too much and it gets abit boring.

Lineage2 was covered in bots n that game was a grind game...Its prob the best game i ever played and prob the best alot of other people played too.

[xtopolis]

I think people look into things too much and it gets abit boring.

Lineage2 was covered in bots n that game was a grind game...Its prob the best game i ever played and prob the best alot of other people played too.

^this
As corrupt as it was, it was still a lot of fun.

Doesn't matter if they can't change the code, they can still ban that ass.

[LostCause]

areet lads! hows swtor? me sub dun but if this new patch coming soon gonna be any good ill give it a go my lil army in wow is growing but i think leveling 4 chars 80-85 will drive me insane half way there on em..
n rolls u got dethroned lad i am now king of the kos castle if u get what im saying!! dont worry i wont rob the guild bank 20k in there need to do some proper nutter spamming! but ye which of you ppl gona play gw2 u know who u r euros but really umm ye i think we shud all roll pandas n roll out uya zimmiee.

saffeee

[Rollie]

I do still mess around on gw1 now and again since it doesn't require a sub the campaign story misisons of gw1 were fun to do so likely to play gw2 , Bout time d3 was out damn koreans not agreeing to the real money mall keeps pushing it back since they want global release.